Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 02:38:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter W Logan
Subject: What am I doing? Howdy-Hi, I happened across your web pages and I love them. Good job! You ask what I am doing to oppose the MicroSoft Juggernaut..... Well tonight, for kicks, I went with my PC pals to Best Buy so they could be some of the firsts to get a real copy of Win95. If you've been to one recently, Best Buy has these big decals on the floor advertising Win95 and MicroSoft. I considered my options, and in the end I couldn't resist urinating on one. I am now forever banned from my local Best Buy. Oh well. love Peter Date: Mon, 24 Jul 95 19:41:06 0400 From: "Brian O. Bush"
Hey, i must confess. i have (until recently) been a PC user for 9 years, extending back until my early high school years. i went to college and majored in math and computer science. i used to hate macintoshes. recently, i just got tired of having to change my life so much to fit my computer. it was 1995. not 1960. so i bought a PowerMac. Your web page on anti-microsoft is so correct that it makes me laugh that i used to throw rocks (not really) at people like you. now i am writing my thesis program (and system) under CodeWarrior and dream of working for Apple. My mac makes me powerful and happy. thanks to people like you, i feel free. thanks, Brian Brian O. Bush, Guest Researcher National Institue of Standards and Technology http://www.ent.ohiou.edu/~bushbo "how was this done..." -SP Date: Wed, 23 Aug 95 08:28:22 0000 From: Steve Sullivan
Hi Jon! To oppose the MS juggernaut, I'm going to put on my "Macintosh. The features of Windows95 since 1984" t-shirt and, on Thursday, walk into the Microsoft office here on the 11th floor of 379 Thornall Street in Edison, NJ, and ask for a data sheet on Windows 95. Then I'll go back up to the Apple office on the 15th floor and laugh myself silly. -Steve Sullivan K-12 SE Apple Computer, Inc. Edison, NJ X-Personal_Name: Carter Rhodes From: rrhod01@emory.edu Jon, I have just read your article WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO OPPOSE THE MICROSOFT JUGGERNAUT which was reprinted in the FISHWRAP--the monthly publication of Atlanta Macintosh Users Group, Inc. I heartily commend you. I work in an office at Emory that is PC oriented. I find that it is so easy to just give up, as you say, just to hope things will finally work. But I'm hoping that eventually I can get a foot in the door, so to speak, by convincing my boss to let me have a Mac. He is not very happy with the "DOS box" so who knows, maybe he'll succumb. You see I began my computer know-how with a Mac Plus, and still use it at home. Then I got to this office, and began to appreciate the Mac even more. Just when I think I've nailed down a PC problem, another one comes up. With the Mac it seems all I have to do is to learn how to use a program. With the PC, I'm constantly having to learn IT. The Mac just stays out of the way. Oh well, I know this is boring you, you've heard all this before. But hopefully, I'm doing what I can to oppose the juggernaut. Thanks again for the great article and for letting Fishwrap reprint it. Carter Rhodes
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 1995 00:44:36 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Olofsen +31 71 263344 / 174049
I complain every day about Windows, but hardly anyone believes me when I say that it doesn't work, and when they find out that it doesn't work, they believe that it is just normal and that it is not necessary to have a better OS, because they don't believe me that there are better OS's. What more can I do?? From: Trinkos@aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 20:10:31 -0400 Searching for AppleScript resources for my next book I came across your page. Nice stuff about Microsoft. One thing I didn't see you mention was the vast level of ignorance in the PC world about the Mac. Saw one comparison in Network world or some such that showed the Mac as a 16 bit OS while Windows 95 would be a 32bit OS. Cute. Oh well. Keep up the good work.
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 95 14:23:46 0600 From: "Robert J. Burton"
Subject: So, tell me, what are you doing to oppose the Microsoft juggernaut? I bought WordPerfect! From: "Jonathan C. Poet"
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 08:42:02 -0400 Subject: The Microsoft Juggernaut What am I doing? Quite simply, I refuse to buy another Microsoft product for as long as I live. If the mac is still around when I am 90 years old, I'll still be buying them. ps- fantastic WWW page. To: jonpugh@netcom.com (jonpugh@netcom.com) From: cooper@ms.sjdccd.cc.ca.us (Cooper, Ernie) Subject: Microsoft juggernaut I recently visited your anti-microsoft site and let me tell you It was great you have put great points out about why Microsoft is evil and why Apple is better. I have been visiting alot of sites about Apple, Macintosh, Microsoft, Windows, etc. and I'd say that the point is definitly out there. What with the Advertizements that totally trash Windows95 being published in magazines. But here is what I'm getting at, the people who are reading this stuff already know and believe in what is being said. I mean look at a MACWorld magazine. Full color Macintosh adds that spread out over 4 pages telling about the improvements in Windows95 and then total blowing it away with articles and articles about how MACs had this in 1984. But then pick up a magazine that deals with all kinds of computers PCs and MACs, like New Media, or Wired. There you see Windows95 on 4 pages just like the MAC add in MACWorld and you're lucky if you find 1 little insert in the booklet in the middle of the magazine telling about the PowerMAC 9500(or whatever the hell it is). My point is why is Apple trying to convince MAC users that the MAC interface is better than Windows95 when its telling Windows Users what kind of improvements MAC users can get? Those ads should be reversed. MAC users should beable to learn about PowerMAC improvements while people who use Windows should learn that Windows95 sucks in comparison to the Macintosh interface. MAC users(like myself) already know that Windows95, and all Windows versions, suck in comparson to the MAC interface so Apple should be informing Windows users that Windows95 sucks and not to buy it. Thank you for alowing me to express my opinion. From, Nathan Cooper (USING MY DAD'S EMAIL. I AM NOT ERNIE COOPER!) ______________________________________________________________________________ San Joaquin Delta College World Wide Web:http://www.sjdccd.cc.ca.us 5151 Pacific Avenue email:webmaster@ms.sjdccd.cc.ca.us Stockton, CA 95207 general information:(209) 474-5151 or FAX@(209)474-5600
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:22:22 PST From: Alex Morando
Subject: MS Juggernaut >>> So, tell me, what are you doing to oppose the Microsoft juggernaut? >>> Personally, I will never buy another Microshaft product again, and I always tell people why they are truly an Evil Empire(tm), but then, how does one oppose Windoze in a business environment? MIS departments have become the SS troops of the MS juggernaut, the front-line soldiers intent on destroying all competition and innovation in the workplace. The hype around Win95 is amazing - I have never seen a company with this much influence on the national media. Mac fanatics should realize that, unless you work in the computer industry, the choice of computing platform is not worth your job and career. Most in the corporate world will just go along with what MIS has to say. Our computer systems are managed by ISSC, a division of IBM - they aren't even pushing OS/2 or IBM hardware! The Apple lemming commercial, although panned, is the truth. This is something that requries group action, and a lot of help from the Mac camp, especially from Apple. Alex Morando arm@netcom.com Alex Morando, Engineer-at-large, Space Systems Engineering Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 18:35:09 0800 From: Marc Gumpinger
Subject: Fighting the Microsoft juggernaut Jon, in fact you expressed all my thoughts about the position of Microsoft - I'd double sign your Microsoft Juggernaut document! I'm only a little student but I try as hard as I can to promote Apple here in Munich / Germany. When I used to work for a Service Bureau and got calls from Windows uses who needed help I simply adviced them to buy a Mac and save a lot of money - and a lot of them did, as I noticed from the customers lists. Now that I'm about to study Economics my clear and definitive goal is to join Apple Germany first and them try to get to Cupertino to fight Microsoft. In the last few years this turned into something personal for me. What I'm doing right now is to build AppleScript based applications with a very user friendly FaceSpan interface to have something that won't run with Windows. One example is an ordering system for the University of Munich (Veterinary Faculty) which completely supports drag and drop, balloon help etc. A second project is a set of utilities for QuarkXPress which will most likely be distributed with XChange. And, hey, this one really won't be ported to work with QuarkXPress for Windows :} Thirdly I'm writing the first German-wide series of articles about AppleScript which covers the language, scriptable applications and scripting additions and not only examples thereof. cheers Marc Internet: a2c0195@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de CIS: 100114,2165 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 95 18:13:30 0700 From: Arnold Engelmann
Jon, I really liked your home page! I especially liked all the articles on Why You Should Buy a Mac. I have a tough time arguing with my co-workers about the merits of the Macintosh, since they are so clueless as to what a Mac can really do. Arnold Engelmann ESRI intern Redlands, CA Date: Sat, 26 Aug 95 00:31:46 0400 From: David Neidorf
Subject: anti microsoft I agree with you. The Mac has alot more to offer and much less hassels. Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 12:15:34 -0500 From: jscalhoun@mail.utexas.edu (J.Scott Calhoun) Subject: fellow member Mac Advocates Local 151 Just a note to commend you on your Web pages. Not only do you speak the gospel truth (Book of Jobs), but you do so in a clear, concise manner unlike some Radical Mac Fundamentalists I know. I too have used other platforms and have gotten results, but not nearly as easy and fast as with a Mac. I'm a recent convert and couldn't be happier. In the beginning of my Macintosh conversion I didn't understand all the deep animosity toward Microsoft. Then I witnessed Word 6.0 and the new Excel/Office; I was stunned. Now I fully support the jihad against Microsoft. I'm also the happy owner of WordPerfect 3.1 Thanks again and have a great day! Keep up the good work at Apple. Scott =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Scott Calhoun jscalhoun@mail.utexas.edu College of Liberal Arts la_team_web@www.dla.utexas.edu University of Texas at Austin phone: 512-471-4271 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 95 09:34:43 0600 From: Atreyu Svoren
Subject: What am I doing? Hi. I thoroughly enjoyed your web pages. I don't remember how I got here, but it's now a permanent bookmark, so who cares? I currently manage 30 Macs in a corporate publishing environment. The rest of the computers in the company are PC's, about 300. I have managed to get a PowerPC 7100 installed in the Financial Analysis division. This was a major breakthrough. They're happy campers now. Regarding Microsoft in general, I have come to the following conclusion. Microsoft Headquarters is in fact the site of the "black lodge". For those unaware, the black lodge is a major part of the Twin Peaks saga. Apparently a very evil place. Emanating from the black lodge is "Bob", evil in its truest form. Bob invades and possesses the free spirits of this world and corrupts them beyond all help. Whether Bill Gates is "Bob" remains to be seen. But he is sly and cunning and should be watched carefully. As Macintosh users, we should not turn our backs on Microsoft, but be keenly aware of its every move. Windows 95, which I have used, is a perfect example. Every Macintosh user should become familiar with it, they should touch it, feel it, use it, and learn it. They must know the face of evil in order to fight it. Do not under-estimate this lowly piece of software. It will lead to clear vision of the future, but a future both dark and forboding. Anyways, these are my thoughts, this 30th day of August, 1995, at 3:34 AM in the morning. Keep up the good work. Atreyu Svoren Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 17:28:41 0000 From: tdrago
I could not have said it better myself. Great article! I wish Apple would take a more aggressive attack on Microsoft. Yes I've seen the ads in MacWorld and MacUser, but it seems there should be a more creative angle to fight back. How about more infomercials, and maybe some celebrity endorsements. Where's that old Apple PR? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 16:07:18 -0400 From: Richard Hudak
Subject: Mac vs Win '95 Thanks for your "Macintosh Advocacy" web page, Jon. Though I'm trapped in a company I did not create (Lotus) I use a Mac at home, and believe in it. My four-year-old knows his way around and had taught my wife a few things, so I appreciate the "kid-testimony." More power to you. -- +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ "Human beings live in a world of meaningful objects--not in an environment of stimuli or self constituted entities." --Herbert Blumer ,1969 Richard Hudak Richard_Hudak@crd.lotus.com http://metro.turnpike.net/H/hudakrmii/index.html +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 13:59:49 -0700 From: Marc Allen Page
Subject: Rad anti MS I love hearing real logic and reason about why the future should not be microsoft. Thank you for your efforts at a better future Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:51:20 -0400 From: kpidcoc@wilkes1.wilkes.edu (Ken Pidcock) Subject: RE Macintosh Advocacy I came across your advocacy page via a path that started with an Apple advertisement on the MacUser page. If you haven't seen it, it's brilliant, and would make a fabulous bumper sticker. A single line of block text over the Apple logo: C:\ONGRTLNS.W95 Cute, huh? Anyway, I'm a Macintosh user (and, hopefully, a soon-to-be Macintosh owner, if Apple ever gets around to delivering to its higher education customers) who was for a number of years the sole DOS user in an all-Macintosh office. Believe me, that's no picnic, either. I remember a colleaugue looking at a document and asking, "You mean you can use more than one font" Even now, it embarasses me somewhat to see the degree to which my fellow Mac users treat the real "rest of us" as idiots. I think that this attitude fails to consider the history of personal computing. Consider the year 1986, when a lot of offices starting buying desktop machines in large numbers. True, the Macintosh had the (VASTLY) superior operating system, but that OS left little room for any serious applications. Given the choice between useful if primitive tools and a slow, expensive OS showcase, it wasn't that dumb to go with the Intel platforms. Today, of course, the appropriate choice is obvious, but everybody has this tremendous investment in old software and files prepared thereby. Why not both? Fair enough (I've ordered the 6100/DOS for my home), but you're asking managers to spend an extra $800.00 per machine, either for an Intel expansion card or for SoftWindows and the extra memory it requires. Not an easy choice. I'm convinced that the Macintosh is coming up on some fat times. All the Windows95 hype churned up a lot of professional and popular journalism, almost all of which included deference toward MacSystem as the best graphical OS; I expect a few more people will be looking at it than had been. The Intel x86 line is about at an end. In the not too distant future, offices will be looking at choosing between WindowsNT and Copeland, both controlling RISC CPUs; in either case, their old stuff's going to have to be emulated. Myself, I'll probably remain split for a while. I learned to write with WordPerfect 4.2 and, after you've climbed that hill, nothing graphical is fast or efficient enough. So next to my Mac at work sits an 8 Mhz AT clone with a Hercules monochrome display. I've actually become more fond of the arrangement since we had ethernet networks installed. While I get work done on the AT, I let Web pages download on the Mac. Jeez, I wonder if that'll work with the houdini? Kenneth Pidcock Biology Department Wilkes University Wilkes-Barre, PA 18766 phone (717)831-4766 fax (717)829-2434 kpidcoc@wilkes.edu
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